The things you work with — genetic sequencing, huge data sets, mathematical modeling — were they even around 10 years ago?
There were some very particular phylogenetic tools — methods to build evolutionary trees based upon sequencing data — that were developed toward the end of my Ph.D. Those methods have become the basis for a huge amount of what I do. I now use these methods to study how viruses move and evolve using sequence data.
When I started the Ph.D., the genomes of the non-human stuff were coming out — malaria and so forth. After that, around 2007, we were able to do comparative genomics. The computational methods have developed a lot. Data have developed a lot. Some of the mathematical modeling ideas have been around for longer, but they’ve been waiting for data to exist to be tested.
What has been the biggest game-changer?
Genetic sequencing. When the WHO [World Health Organization] is either trying to pick a flu vaccine or to figure out what’s going on when there’s a new Ebola or Zika or whatever, sequencing is just an amazingly powerful analysis tool. It really lets people connect what’s going on. You can see concretely where a mutation arose and spread. For the flu vaccine, the WHO is able to better track emerging mutants and match a vaccine. In the Ebola outbreak, it was better able to track transmission chains and aid field epidemiologists. Even though sequencing viruses existed for a while, routine sequencing and surveillance is something that’s been developed in the last 10 years.
How do you connect the work you do in the lab with the world?
Everyone is doing sequencing, but most people aren’t able to analyze their sequences as well or as quickly as they might want to. We’re trying to fill in this gap so that the WHO or the CDC [U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention] or whoever can have better analysis tools to do what they do. We’re hoping that will get our software in the hands of a lot of people.
Are you able to imagine what you’ll be doing in 10 years?
Ten years is hard. I have this example in one of my talks about forecasting viruses. If you think back five years, it’s 2011. The iPhone exists. The market penetration for smart phones isn’t at 50 percent yet, but you can totally see where things are at and you can project it.
If you go back 10 years, 2006, the iPhone does not yet exist. You can see Facebook taking off, but mobile internet is not a thing on the horizon so much. In the 5-year time scale you can extrapolate. In the 10-year time scale, there will be completely new things.
In five years, I’d like our software to be a standard and useful tool for the WHO and the CDC. In 10 years, I’m hoping there will be whole new fields to be working in.
How did you know that you wanted to do what you’re doing, and when did you know that?
I took longer than some people to figure out something that was really mine, that I could run with. After finishing a Ph.D. [in biology] at Harvard, we moved so my wife could attend the University of Michigan for library information science. So I was looking around for labs there. Mercedes Pascual had just published a paper on neural networks [a computing system modeled on the way the brain and nervous system work] and flu evolution, and I had been doing some neural network stuff.
It seemed at the time like I would continue publishing in evolution journals, but with flu. But what ended up happening is that the evolution people didn’t care nearly as much about viruses as they do about fruit flies, but the virus people do care about what the evolutionary methods can tell them about viruses. So there’s been kind of a steady shift towards more epidemiology ever since then. That’s felt good. It’s like trying to be useful instead of trying to be clever.
How has philanthropic support made a difference in the work you do?
When I arrived here, I got a package to help get the lab going. I didn’t have to immediately hustle for grants. So I spent the first couple of years trying to really think about things. I spent a lot of my time writing this first flu software instead of having to write grants that year. That ended up being a useful foundation. I then wrote grants on that software that have subsequently been successful. Now it’s all supported by National Institutes of Health grants, but I needed that springboard.
What’s the most adventurous thing you’ve ever done?
Getting on board this ZIBRA project — Zika in Brazil Real-time Analysis —was the most adventurous thing in the last five years or so. We drove a bus down the northeast coast of Brazil and stopped at government diagnostic labs to go through their freezers and help them with diagnostics. That was my first time at the bench for quite a while. We took positive samples with us and they are now in São Paulo with collaborators, where lab work is continuing.
What’s the most bizarre thing you’ve ever had to do for your science? Like, holding giant pipe cleaners to illustrate genetic trees?
That might be it.